Monday, December 19, 2022

Bates County Coroner discusses ‘Died Suddenly’ documentary


A recent documentary titled Died Suddenly has raised concerns regarding a supposed uptick in persons passing away with suspicions that it is related to Covid and/or Covid vaccines while putting emphasis on unusual fibrous, rubbery clots found by embalmers that are of unknown nature.

Following an influx of questions since its release, Bates County Coroner Greg Mullinax chose to hold a public forum to answer questions and give a local take from a professional, objective perspective to best answer the questions in a Facebook live session last week. In opening statements, Mullinax acknowledged this subject is highly controversial and he feels that it is incumbent upon public officials to address such matters in the most factual, non biased way possible; and that not addressing such issues spurs more controversy.

As he briefly outlined the documentary, it says that doctors and embalmers have found the unusual clots occurring within a timeline that seems to parallel the implementation of the Covid vaccines; with that, the film ties an uptick in deaths and medical emergencies overall to the vaccine.

One of the first questions presented to Mullinax was asking if he has seen such clots.

“Yes I have. I’ve held and examined them. By and large, I would agree with how they are described in the film.”

Mullinax went on to say that he was first made aware of this issue some time back, as he maintains contact with many other embalmers- but as with anything new, most aren’t going to jump to a conclusion that it would be caused by one particular thing without a lot of research- as it is not uncommon for embalmers to encounter blood clots on a regular basis.

Another question fielded was how often are these clots being found locally, and the answer is not known; it’s a bit too early to tell. Someone asked “what are they” and that as well is unknown as it would obviously take someone with medical knowledge well beyond what is available at the local level. Mullinax was asked if he’d ever seem something like them before, and that answer was no. The Q & A session took a bit of a difficult turn when he was asked why don’t coroners list the vaccine as the cause of death. “That’s a good question” said Mullinax “First of all, the coroner would have to know that this clot was indeed contributory to the cause of death. I am not aware that this has been the case where that has been specifically identified.”

However, he did present a scenario where that particular clot blocked a vessel or artery and did directly contribute to the death, but that’s where it gets tricky. “In Missouri, the coroner  is charged to provide the cause of death on the death certificate. Yes, the cause but not the mechanism of death, and there’s a difference.”

He expanded saying he would need to know the cause of the clot. Another example was death by cardiac arrest, which could be a fairly simple  diagnosis however, what caused the cardiac arrest?

Other contributing factors, such as various underlying health issues only complicate matters. 

“The bigger challenge for a coroner is determining the manner of death. Using the cardiac arrest scenario, a person could have cardiac arrest because of another contributing factor, and there are five choices for manner- natural, accident, suicide, homicide, or could not be determined.”

To finalize his point, just having a mechanism of death, such as a clot, without having much more information only complicates matters as a coroner documents the case. And as to be expected, opinions differ with coroners throughout the country.

“In answering questions and filling out paperwork, I go as far as I can. However, it’s frustrating to me as a coroner because this is unexplainable” noting that the could not be determined option is only used as a last resort.

Mullinax closed by noting “I hope that there will be sound and reliable pathological studies done” before any definitive conclusions are made regarding a connection between Covid, the Covid vaccines and the unusual clots that are being discovered.

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